On 25/03/2016 at 15:27, JG1_Lipfert said: Crusader Mk. (To put things in perspective, he rates the highly touted Soviet T-34/85 at a mere #9.) Racks disappear after all shells in the rack have been shot or loaded. It was manufactured by Nuffield Mechanizations and Aero Ltd, which was a personal enterprise of William Morris, 1st Viscount Nuffield. 19 Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. With the AMX-13 FL-11 moving up to 4.0 France could certainly use this machine. Chi-Ha Kai, BT-7, M5A1) will penetrate it with ease. Tank Hard The Crusader was a parallel design to the Covenanter but was ready six weeks earlier than the Covenanter despite starting at a later time. Initiative from, Spherical gun mantlet and sloped turret sides may bounce shells from certain angles, 2-pdr cannon can frontally penetrate almost all tanks it will face, like, Low profile, harder to get spotted and shot at, Very good acceleration with good handling, Additional 4 mm side skirts can detonate HE and HEAT fuses before they impact the hull, Smoke grenades which can be fired one at the time, Overall weak armour, anyone (including SPAAs) can penetrate it, Most shells have no explosive filler and limited post-penetration damage, pinpoint shots on crew and module positions are needed, The only shell with an explosive filler drastically lacks penetration power, Crew is packed together, can be knocked out easily with a single shot by large-calibre shells, notably the early Pz.IV models. Home; For friends; Tools; Forum. Video Card: DirectX 10.1 level video card: AMD Radeon 77XX / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660. <<. Required fields are marked *. Still, normal cannons at this BR will have no problem penetrating the Crusader II's frontal armour. The engine, steering system, and cooling system on the Crusader was different as well, but the Covenanter and Crusader use the same main turret. New Vanguard. The Mark III improved in both areas. Minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p with Metal support. 0 This prototype evolved into the T-34. War Thunder: Update 1.55 "Royal Armour" United Kingdom Cromwell V Britain II Rank Battle rating: Class: Light tank Research:9 200 Purchase:22 000 Show in game Contents 1 Description 2 General info 2.1 Survivability and armour 2.2 Mobility 2.3 Modifications and economy 3 Armaments 3.1 Main armament 3.1.1 Ammunition 3.1.2 Ammo racks 3.1.3 Optics 3.2 Machine guns 4 Usage in battles Crusader "The Saint" - War Thunder Wiki were both balanced. The Mk I and Mk II Crusaders had a crew of five: commander, gunner, driver, loader, and hull gunner. Battles 82. Because of the lack of MG turret, the MG gunner is also gone, leaving only 3 crew members, 2 of which are closely packed inside the turret. Overall, the survivability of the Crusader II is low, like every other light tank. With careful aiming and its fast reload rate, the Crusader can quickly punch multiple holes on the enemy. It has an amazing gun depression of -15 meaning the Crusader will be able to press its gun down over the majority of hills, giving it great map adaptability. Last but not least, he is a Companion of the Order of the Naval Order of the United States (NOUS). Shoots way above where it is aimed, even if you directly control the turret with the MG in it. Crusader: The Best Tank of World War II? - 19FortyFive 2 M24, Pz.IV F2, Chi-Nu, T-34 1942, etc) and they will easily penetrate the Crusader III and wipe out all the crew. It can get to max speed very fast and the turning ability is very good at any speed, except for moving in the same place. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. In fact the guns were so similar that the game currently gives us the same performance for both. ISBN 0-304-35529-1 1 The armour on the Crusader II is the typical light tank armour. Although classified as a light tank, the Crusader is only light because of the low armour. The camo would also be awesome. Tank Duels: Crusader vs Pz.III at El Alamein - War Thunder Strength Should the Cruiser Mk. This MG is only good at knocking out completely exposed crew on open vehicles like the Sd.Kfz. Naval attack Wirbelwind, M15 CGMC, etc) can penetrate it frontally. The hull front glacis is only 20 mm, which is not enough to stop pretty much any round unless angled at an extreme. The first two variants of the Crusader were lightly armed and armored. The 57 mm gun has great penetration, but the Crusader has very thin armour. The 3 turret crew are packed very closely and are prone to be all knocked out by a single explosive shell. Statistics for Crusader Mk III | War Thunder Absolutely would be fantastic for the British tree. About 21 Crusaders still exist intact in various parts of the world. Can't believe I never commented in this thread before. Which nation, if any, would you like to see this vehicle in the tech-tree for? The post-penetration survivability is a lot worse than the Crusader II. One drawback is that it is the slowest travelling AP shell the Crusader III has (~800 m/s), so more lead is needed when shooting moving targets. French-manned Crusader Mk.III tanks in Trier, Germany, 1945. This round, which left the OQF 6-pdr Mk.V's muzzle at a velocity of 1220m/s (almost half again that of the Mk.9T Shot), made the 6-pdr gun quite easily capable of dealing with Tigers and Panthers from the front. Scan this QR code to download the app now. I just noticed the machine gun issue on the Crusader Mk.II myself, still the same nearly 2 years later - looked and couldn't find a bug report on it. Hard attack New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The low-profile Crusader is amongst the first light tanks on the British tech tree with the ability to perform scouting, which is a much relevant role amidst battles. Late War Crusader Mk.III - Great Britain - War Thunder - Official Forum To break it down by numbers, if the bugs are squashed and all these bits are put in, it'll be a lot like the current Crusader Mk.III except: With a max penetration of 89 mm, it will go through almost all tanks' weak spots as well as the parts where your other ammo types will not penetrate (e.g. And not only that! The brigade's first action was in Operation Battleaxe, though it was delayed due to adapting the tanks for the desert environment. In the game, the Crusader should be used in a similar fashion. Copyright 2023 Black Tree Gaming Ltd. All rights reserved. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. BT-5, M22) in one shot. Its top speed is also somewhat limited, capped at 43 km/h - it will not get as fast as some other light tanks like BT-7, M22, and the M5 Stuarts who can go over 50+ km/h. GAZ-AAA (DshK), ZiS-30, Sd.Kfz 6/2, etc) are most vulnerable to such MG fire. Although it now looks cleaner and uncluttered, the flat 30 mm armour becomes truly untrustworthy against any vehicle as it simply cannot bounce anything. Your email address will not be published. The Christie suspension system on the Crusader had five road wheels for it instead of the usual four, which improves weight distribution of the increased 20-ton weight of the Crusader compared to the 14 tons of the A13 cruisers. 5 Track In recap, preferably play as a faster medium tank in a support role amidst the frontline during early module research, additionally players can act as flankers and either eliminate the threats themselves or scout the enemy tanks for allies in SPGs or Strike Aircraft. Sure, I guess this could work as a rank III light tank at ~3.3-3.7 since it's different enough from the preceding models. The Beauty of the Crusaders MK 3 - War Thunder - YouTube The Crusader tank was designed to be fast and highly mobile, exploiting gaps in enemy battle lines by penetrating the flanks and disrupting the enemy from behind. 7 But low rank German tanks in game have late war HEAT they wouldn't have had when facing things like Char B1s, and I'm pretty sure the Swedish APDS the reserve tanks usewasn't around when most of the tanks they fight were in front line service. The OQF Mk.V 6-pdr is found in game on the Churchill III, which does get better penetration performance as a result, and I believe it's also on the AEC Mk II armoured car, although that is a fairly rareevent vehicle. Windsor: Profile. 2 The most noticeable difference is the absence of the MG turret next to the driver, which directly exposes the unsloped hull armour behind, reducing its sturdiness. Hello folks! Combat data The Crusader was a parallel design to the Covenanter, but was ready six weeks earlier than the Covenanter despite starting at a later time. 1 AP/T, as it has more explosive filling that would help take out enemy crews more easily. The cannon is capable of dealing with enemy aircraft as well as any fighter aircraft can, if not better. A roundlike that would make a Crusadereffective at much higher BRs, where there is a big scouting vehicle gap. The Crusader Mk.III was produced in 1942-'43, and at the end of 1942 the British army started the switchover of production from the Ordnance QF 6-pdr Mk.III to the Mk.V (the Mk.IV being the AT gun version of the Mk.V, as the Mk.II was to the Mk.III). |War history| chevron_left. One of these designs was the designation Tank, Cruiser Mk.V based off the A13 cruiser tanks, named the "Covenanter", and Nuffield was invited to become part of its development team, but they refused due to interest in developing their own cruiser tank. 28.5.1942 - 1.1.1946 This has been reported on the Russian page:https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/255795-crusader-mk2-pulemetnaya-bashenka/. AFV Profile. The British, on the other hand, tag their tanks with heroic words that start with the letter C. Hence we have had the Challenger, the Chieftain, and the Churchill in the case of the Churchill Crocodile, we were treated to a double-C as well as the Centurion and todays subject, the World War II-era Challenger. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. Strictly speaking the Crusader AA vehicles should already have the uparmouring. MediumVehicle. Also this is probably the last vehicle I'd suggest to get APDS as it's basically the only British tank using 6pdr that would definitely never use APDS in combat, Valentine IX / X, late Churchill III / IV (with Applique armour) or even AEC Mk II would be much better suited for that. OS: Most modern 64bit Linux distributions. 3,750,00 rounds of the APDS IBT shell were produced. It is quick, well armed and highly manoeuvrable, making it great at rushing capture points and exploiting the enemies flanks. Original Reporting. I've been getting into the Crusader III, best known for having a 57mm HV at 3.0, but it comes at a cost. The Crusader III is about 4 tons heavier than the preceding Crusader II but has no engine upgrades, lowering its power-to-weight ratio. This shell can usually one-shot compact light vehicles (e.g. 8 . The Crusader first saw action at North Africa, right after the British had been pushed back to the Egyptian border by Axis forces. National Security. Crusader Mk.III is a Tank unit in Panzer Corps. Almost every tank can kill you easily, even with Rank I guns. Air frags per battle N/A. These first saw action in the Second Battle of El Alamein in October 1942. The Crusader features a new design that differs from its cruiser tank predecessors. Range It can penetrate heavy tanks like a KV-1 (L-11) when they are not angling. Between the World Wars, tank design had been rather lacking due to funding shortages and a resistance to mechanization many had viewed the tank as a fad of World War I. Russia had purchased a prototype tank from the American inventor John Walter Christie, who developed a new type of suspension called Christie suspension that allowed tanks to travel at faster speeds cross country. The auxiliary turret was removed, replaced with more plating and additional ammunition stowage, while the crew was reduced to just three by having the commander also load the main gun. T-34s, Pz II thru IV, Shermans, Stugs, everything I've bounced at least 4 times in the past 3 days. The Crusader II's mobility is decent. Cost and the 6pdr. Crusader Mk.III This tank has moderate armour and is fairly survivable. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. General data 0 Class War Thunder MMO Action game Gaming . Arcade Battles. The crusader iii in game is already amoung my favorite tanks and this would just be an improvement on that so +1. The Tank, Cruiser, Crusader III (A15) is a rank II British light tank Do watch out for any M4 and M24 as they have proper vertical stabiliser and can stabilise their guns at slightly higher speeds. These may be very different from the real, because we are monitoring only those players who use our site. The legendary 40mm Bofors anti-air cannon installed on a Crusader tank turret served with great effect in the Second World War. Depiction ofany real-world weapon orvehicle inthis game does not mean participation ingame development, sponsorship orendorsement byany weapon orvehicle manufacturer. It'd be like M900 for M60 rather than IPM1 or whatever :P also APCR was serviced for 6Pdr maybe we should see some of that around eh. Even when you change to the MG solo the aiming is messed up. The first unit to use the Crusader in combat was the 6th Royal Tank Regiment, which used them alongside Matilda Infantry Tanks. Processor: Intel Core i5 or Ryzen 5 3600 and better, Video Card: DirectX 11 level video card or higher and drivers: Nvidia GeForce 1060 and higher, Radeon RX 570 and higher, Processor: Core i5, minimum 2.2GHz (Intel Xeon is not supported). Strength Powered by Invision Community. Which means the Aimer could elevate the gun by hand easily. Range It didn't see frontline use, but the Crusader was still in service at the time APDS came about. Sign-in to your account. Vehicles with open fighting compartment and exposed crew (e.g. Crusader Mk. Bird, Lorrin; Lingston, Robert (2001). The Journal of Intelligence and Cyber Security, President Joe Biden Has Sleep Apnea: An Expert Explained What That Means, Make Putin Cry: Ukraine Footage Shows Russian Tank Getting Annihilated By Mines, Sending Donald Trump to Jail for Classified Documents Is Dangerous, Donald Trump Just Proved How Brainless He Is. The Crusader Mk II is a quite effective low-range light tank, it is equipped with a fast firing 40 mm cannon, which is excellent at taking out tanks with a cramped interior and the crew close to each other, very fast reload, gun stabilization and its good handling makes up for shell doing not so much damage. Interested in purchasing something from the War Thunder Store? One of these designs was the designation Tank, Cruiser Mk.V based off the A13 cruiser tanks, named the "Covenanter", and Nuffield was invited to become part of its development team, but they refused due to interest in developing their own cruiser tank. Despite the increased calibre, the cannon still has an impressive short reload time of ~5 seconds. As an experienced heavy tanker (Churchill I, III, VII and Black Prince), I struggled with other medium tanks that I'd pair with my British Heavyweights, but the Crusader III, "it just works." Designed by Nuffield Mechanizations and Aero Ltd between 1939 and 1940, in response to General Staff specification A13, the crusader was a cruiser tank based on the Christie helical spring suspension, sacrificing armor for . While more Crusader tanks came in to reinforce the cruiser tank forces, there were never enough to supply the continuously expanding armoured units as 7th Brigade was combine with the 7th Hussars, the 2nd Armoured Brigade was added to the 7th Armoured Division, and the 8th Hussars was combined with the 4th Armoured Brigade. The heavily angled turret sides might also deflect some. The turret front is not much better, being 30 mm. I shall explain what the difference from the later version was, point out a few little optional extras which have been left off and could be put on, and implore you all to help me persuade the devs to give Britain a huggable little light tank capable of exploring the higher BR ranges a little more sensibly. - M24, T-34). Architectural History, Warships 1860-1906, Tanks pre-1950. Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. There are still plenty of enemies that can give you some trouble. 16 Editorial Guidelines and Publishing Standards. The operation, which called for the relieve of the siege of Tobruk in June, was initiated in June to which 11 Crusader tanks were lost to anti-tank guns, plus many more to mechanical faults. Close Defense Why is this happening. This Crusader is a great support tank, not just in firepower, but is also capable of scouting and repairing for the team. And that APDS did enter service for Sweden years after those tanks were out ye. Interior 14.27 mm side armour is made of rolled homogeneous armour. Target type I am playing the Crusader Mk.II right now and I cannot for the life of me get the Turreted MG to aim properly. 7, Crusader Mk.III Since it is a light tank it does not have much armour, driving and fighting in the open field should be avoided whatever it is possible, unless there is enough of cover or the terrain shaped in a way so it is possible to use the hull down tactics at which this tank excels at because of its very low profile. Some Crusader tanks equipped the tank regiments that stayed back at the British Homelands such as the 11th Armoured Division. These 2 MGs can also be useful to clear obstacles like fences, trees, etc so the tank will not slow down driving over them. 150 II Late be added in Warthunder? In 1938, the General Staff of the British Army requested for a cruiser tank that was lighter and more affordable than the heavier A16 cruiser design developed by Nuffield Mechanizations & Aero. Major +1 I really want more Crusaders ingame and this seems to be a perfect fit right before the first Cromwell. On the other hand, try to keep this tank out of the enemy's sights. Air attack Archived post. What's the difference between the two? Enough Crusaders arrive that the entire 6th Royal Tank Regiment was refitted with them, which joined up with the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment to form the 7th Armoured Brigade "Desert Rats". Crusader AA Mk.I Vyacheslav "BVV_d" Bulannikov, Game Designer: Both Britain and France could do with another tank. After General Bernard Montgomery took command of the British Army in 1942, more British tank units were reequipped with the Grant and M4 Sherman tanks while the Crusaders were relegated from the front-lines to "light squadrons" meant to flank the enemy and attacked at its exposed sides. If you are ingame you can hear a hdyraulic sound when you are elevating your gun. The legendary 40mm Bofors anti-air cannon installed on a Crusader tank turret served with great effect in the Second World War. Smart Bombs: Military, Defense and National Security. The Mk III version eliminated the latter two positions. This page was last edited on 21 January 2023, at 18:46. M3A3 (Italy), M5A1, M22, or BT-7). Skins and camouflages for the Crusader III from live.warthunder.com. The thing is designed for desert combat, so mobility was prioritized, making it have very thin armor compared to other tanks that it might face. Which means the Aimer could elevate the gun by hand easily. The 6-pdr APDS would be a great thing too see as well, even if it puts this version of the Crusader at 4.0 or similar. Definite +1 from me. M5A1, M22) will need a few shots to destroy you. Target type But it's weird to me to suggest APDS for Crusader of all things, the first tank to get a 6Pdr. Christian D. Orr is a former Air Force Security Forces officer, Federal law enforcement officer, and private military contractor (with assignments worked in Iraq, the United Arab Emirates, Kosovo, Japan, Germany, and the Pentagon). We're hiring senior back-end web developers, Crusader Mk III - Rhodesian Camo-1914-.zip. The Crusader Mk.I and Mk.II were equipped with the 2-pounder, which was aimed by the gunner inside with a padded shaft that allows them to elevate the gun by simply adjusting his own height. The MG turret, being enclosed on the back side, can act as spaced armour and stop some penetrating rounds from entering the hull with its 30 mm rear armour. The 2 MGs can get some hits or even critical hits if aimed carefully. The most important thing is that this vehicle will be simply indispensable even if you already have other British rank 3 ground vehicles in your team. Most of the discussed modifications visible. Log in to view your list of favourite games. Historically, the Crusader wouldn't have used APDS in combat, becauseit wasn't developeduntil mid 1944 after the Crusaders had been replaced in front line service by Cromwells and the like, that's true. Additionaly, this adventurous little thing would fit in perfectly to a slot in the French tree alongside that, possibly as a premium vehicle. The tank also has excellent gun depression and the turret shape makes it hard to hit. H.35), while anything better (e.g. Twenty-one Crusaders remain today in various degrees of preservation and wellbeing. Christian D. Orr is a former Air Force officer, Federal law enforcement officer, and private military contractor (with assignments worked in Iraq, the United Arab Emirates, Kosovo, Japan, Germany, and the Pentagon). War Thunder - Crusader Mk III "Drive! Drive! Drive!" - YouTube OCLC54349416, Chamberlain, P and Ellis, C British and American Tanks of World War II 1981 Arco publishing. It had the 6 pounder and was in service during the time the APDS was also in service. This is your standard in-tree Crusader II, with a historical camouflage. Crusader III Britain II Rank Battle rating: Class: Light tank Research: 7 900 Purchase: 10 000 Show in game Contents 1 Description 2 General info 2.1 Survivability and armour 2.2 Mobility 2.3 Modifications and economy 3 Armaments 3.1 Main armament 3.1.1 Ammunition 3.1.2 Ammo racks 3.2 Machine guns 4 Usage in battles 4.1 Enemies worth noting: If you are ingame you can hear a hdyraulic sound when you are elevating your gun. The engine, steering system, and cooling system on the Crusader was different as well, but the Covenanter and Crusader use the same main turret. The Crusader features a new design that differs from its cruiser tank predecessors. Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick. Designed by Nuffield Mechanizations and Aero Ltd between 1939 and 1940, in response to General Staff specification A13, the crusader was a cruiser tank based on the Christie helical spring suspension, sacrificing armor for mobility and maneuverability. Install hundreds of mods with the click of a button. War Thunder - Crusader AA Mk.I is truly dangerous. The - Facebook The most notable places with the Crusaders are South Africa with 8 known survivors, a running Crusader Mk III at Bovington Tank Museum at England, and an anti-aircraft version at Muse des Blinds in France. Yes there's times where I'm just completely fucked, but looking at the stats, I should be fucked a lot more often. However, you may also face better armoured foes like the early M4, T-80, Pz.III, M3 Lee, etc. Video Card: Radeon Vega II or higher with Metal support. Churchill III at 4.3, the Black Prince, Cent Mk 1, and Comet at 6.0, and the entire 7.7 lineup, it gets a bad rep due to a lot of uptiers, but its so fun to play, especially . II Late light tank Crusader Mk. 81 Sorry, thought the multitude of pictures would count as primary sources. Have included some references at the end. After the North African Campaign, the Crusaders no longer saw any use in the front-lines and were used in other roles such as gun tractors with 17-pounders or anti-aircraft mounts such as the Crusader AA Mk I and Mk II Some Crusader tanks equipped the tank regiments that stayed back at the British Homelands such as the 11th Armoured Division. All these aspects give the Crusader admirable versatility on the battlefield. At the same time the tank is small, which gives its crew good protection against machine gun fire or fire from aircraft frontal guns. If you could please Include at least two different sources it would be appreciated if not this post will be taken down in 48 hours. WT Live // Best camouflages for the past week Video Card: NVIDIA 660 with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) / similar AMD with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months; the minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p) with Vulkan support. Subsequent upgrades saw its flaws remedied, making the Crusader a match for the German Panther tanks of the time.. Once a front line was penetrated, cruiser tanks would then speed through to the rear line, attacking lines of supply and communication. Very nice suggestion here. Hard attack The most notable places with the Crusaders are South Africa with 8 known survivors, a running Crusader Mk.III at Bovington Tank Museum at England, and an anti-aircraft version at Muse des Blinds of Saumur in France. The Russian one is probably more likely to get the developers attention, though. Great Britain This would be awesome to have around the 3.7-4.0 region that 6pdr APDS would be beautiful. 345 The cannon is capable of dealing with enemy aircraft as well as any fighter aircraft can, if not better. |Tankcrew| 8. 13 Crusader > WW2 Weapons - World Wars 1914-18 and 1939-45 Make use of your smoke grenades when needed to increase your low survivability. Well, that's all well and good, but it still looks rather like the bog standard Mk.III, not that that's anything but the highest terms of praise. Now, the Crusader was retired from service only after the end of the war, being supplied to units stationed in the UK and to foreign units (such as the Free French, who were using them in some of their premier units right up to the last days of the war) after they stopped seeing mass service in Britain's front-line units after the battle of Kasserine. These saw first action the Second Battle of El Alamein in October 1942. The answers that are provided to questions from this Devblog will be published below. Period British ground forces, Swingfire missiles and long walks on the beach. Interested in purchasing something from the War Thunder Store? Welcome to my channel The Crusader MK III in War Thunder is one of the most fun and powerful vehicle that the game has to offer I can't express this enough, the crusader MK III is awesome.The Crusader MK III has a 57mm 6 pounder cannon with 122mm of penetration and a early war stabilizer. Other than that tank is very stable and pleasant to drive. It was manufactured by Nuffield Mechanizations and Aero Ltd, which was a personal enterprise of William Morris, 1st Viscount Nuffield. In terms of effectiveness in battle with the enemy, this anti-air gun can be compared with its German equivalent: the Wirbelwind, but the design of the British vehicle is even more interesting. The Crusader tank full official name "Tank, Cruiser Mk VI, Crusader" was initially designed in 1939 and entered into operational service in 1941. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. The extra armour might help against autocannon fire a bit too. The turret side is sloped but thin, at 14 mm it will not stop any shell unless the shell happens to hit a heavily angled part. With the tracks on too and counting the 5mm inner structural plate, you'd get to a positively comfy 54mm of metal on the front hull, equal to the 2" turret face: Crusaders with extra armour. Although its max speed may be lacking compared to other fast tanks such as the Stuarts or BTs, it is compensated by its acceleration. Crusader Mk III - Rhodesia at War Thunder Nexus - Nexus Mods After the North African Campaign, the Crusaders no longer saw any use in the front-lines and were used in other roles such as gun tractors with 17-pounders or anti-aircraft mounts such as the Crusader AA Mk.I and Mk.II.