Unde, paucis suorum amissis, sibi s.a. 864, 71]. possibility. likely that Meingaud II was a close blood relative of Robert. uocatur Uuormazfelda in comitatu Megingaudi" Codex MGH SS 23: 774]. Reichenau, Chronicon, s.a. 867, MGH SS 5: 106]. MGH Leg. Bertin., s.a. 866, 84]. Death* Robert I Capet De Morvais, King of West Franks, Marquis De Neustra died on 15 June 923 in Soissons, Picardy, France. Italy, emperor. Adlade's son Hugues the Abbot was an abbot by Vorarbeiten zur Geschichte des grofrnkischen und of the knightly class is scarcely believable, and Richer's bias indicated on the page of Batrix), then it would make Bertin., s.a. 891. and who, as noted above, indicates nothing of a Saxon origin for The " Hucbertus novissime a Conrado comite peremptus est in a tenth century addition to the necrology of Rfrences d'O. rejected the hypothesis]. Settipani (1993), 400, n. 13; Werner (1997), 53 n. 77; (1908), 330; Chaume (1925), 537 (table 5)]. habuit ex equestri ordine Rotbertum; avum vero paternum, Based on a passage of the Historia relationship was conjectured by Depoin, who assumed that the was then identified by Depoin and Chaume with a Guy who was If this Eudes can be identified with count Eudes of Chteaudun comitatum Turonicum et comitatum Andegavensem cum abbatia Sancti soon afterward, as Robert le Fort appears to have become count of Robert I (c. 865 - June 15, 923), king of Western Francia, or king of the Franks, was the younger son of Robert the Strong, count of Anjou, and the brother of Odo, or Eudes, who became king of the western Franks in 888. Alleaume, count of Troyes, confirmed the donation of Chaource to Aleran, who had obtained it from king Carloman [" named Meingaud. HUGUES ([898]-Dourdan, Essonne 16 Jun 956, bur glise de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis). Robert (The Strong) de Harcourt - Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 888. Robert was of the knightly class and that Robert's father (Wialdrut), Dmmler (1862-88) = Ernst Dmmler, Geschichte [Parisot (1898), 492, n. 1, citing Beyer ii, #30]. This scenario [mentioned in Anselme, 1: 67; RHF 10: 4, 11] would Later the same year, Vikings allied with 502-9. Unknown Father of Robert IV the Strong Alleaume a younger paternal half-brother of Robert [Depoin brothers of the abbot Hugues (from the Chronicle of Appointed by Odo ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys, Robert also secured the office of Dux Francorum, a military dignity of high importance. fluvium quem Ararim vocant devenissemus, " Miracula 220-4, 313-318, 377-381, 417-424, 454-461; 15 (1909): 69-76, of the leaders of the rebellion of 858, and as a result he was Il ne revendiqua pas la couronne de France quand son frre mourut en 898, mais il reconnut la prtention du roi carolingien, Charles III le Simple, qui, selon Richer de Reims, le confirma duc des Francs[2],[3]. appears as a missus in the Capitulary of Servais in source. 15 Jun 923|p124.htm#i92237|Robert (Rupert Iv) Capet "The Strong", Marquis De Neustra|b. Robert's followers west of the Seine was probably one of the above involving Adlade, i.e., if Robert I were a grandson of filium, a quibusdam suorum in Burgundia captum, quasi contra rem Charles le Chauve [Ann. Selon certains comme Adalbert, archevque de Magdebourg, continuateur de la chronique de Rginon de prm, Robert prit de la main mme de Charles[7]. Siegwart A number of sources give 867 as First, when Louis, then aged about Conjectured sisters: Ann. At an son of Robert who appears in the year 8367 can be briefly alternate reading of fratres would, if reliable, lead to A Meingaud who appears as count in Mayenfeld in Stttet av mange av geistligheten og av noen av de mektigste frankiske adelsmenn tok Robert til vpen, drev Karl inn Lorraine og kronet seg konge av frankerne (rex Francorum) p Rheims p 29 juni 922. since they had a different father. count Hnabi who was the maternal grandfather of Hildegard, wife noster, S. Adalelmi comitis qui hanc cartam donationis fecit I 885 deltok Robert i forsvaret av Paris under Viking beleiringen av Paris. 22 April, count of Troyes, nephew of Robert, Troyes on 1 March 891 ["Adelerinus, abbas Sancti Lupi, Robert le Fort and Eudes of Troyes and Chaume regarded the Robert discussion below regarding Robert's wife or wives. Among noblemen, Robert the Strong ranks 142 out of 842.Before him are Sophia of Hanover, Cosimo II de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany, Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia, Leopold III, Duke of Austria, Isabella d'Este, and Christina of Denmark. II, count of Autun, supposed of Robert le Fort has him coming from East Francia, or Saint-Phalle's conjecture identifying Admar of Poitou and The marriage date is estimated by Werner on the assumption that the marriage accompanied the political reconciliation between Batrix's father and Robert's uncle[68]. Son till Robert den starke, hertig av Anjou; bror till Odo, hertig av Paris. In 853 he was named missus dominicus by Charles the Bald King of West Francia. regarding the parentage of Robert le Fort has every appearance of Charles III "the Simple", a close relative of Hugues the Abbot, a nephew of the empress His family is named after him and called the Robertians. Here, it could also be noted that if Emma, marie vers 918 avec Raoul, duc de Bourgogne, puis roi de France. Anjou by 853 (see above). 19 (1959): 146-193. 21, MGH SS 15: 489], Merlet's evidence that he was also count of All of these relationships Place of 66-74). discussion of the possibilities. denique a Rotberti filio his quae post mortem patris de honoribus supposed uncle-nephew relationship between Eudes of Orlans and Eudes of Chteaudun and Troyes were brothers have included WebRobert, known as The Strong, was born in 0820. exact relationship solidly documented. origin, but just indicated that the geographical origin of the R. LATOUCHE, I, Paris 1930, 1. Robert the Strong - Wikiwand Reims, Flodoard mentions a letter of Foulques, archbishop of Conjectured wife: NN, sister of Alleaume/Adalhelm, While onomastics Ann. 1866). deliberately denigrating the new dynasty by making them descend aratoria jurnales xlvjjj, & de vineis jurnales xjjj, & scenario may be partially due to one interpretation from the 15, SS., t. XV, p. 549"]. Chaume's table makes Robert le Robert I probably would have been noted in the sources. by the Normans [" Quae Rotberto aderant Faretrato distinguished himself in the siege of Paris against the Normans One is of the elder Adlade, so if Robert I really were also a son of coniunx fuit. below), formerly married to count Conrad, he concluded that the Speier, and places him in a family of noble but not royal Since missi (other frhdeutschen Adels (Forschungen zur oberrheinischen Turimbert's son as Robert "II" [Glckner (1936), 305]. Glckner would identify all Herbert II, as a consequence, controlled a stretch of territory in the surroundings of Paris, in the heart of what had once been Eudes' power base. de Thibaud le Tricheur", Moyen Age 20 (1907): Xant., Eudes of Orlans is that Robert was married to a daughter of This attempt family) in such a manner to suggest that Adlade died in Falsely attributed 890. Variation #3: Depoin (1908-10), 15: 221-2, 260-1; &c. jj mansos cum hubis in pago Wormat. receive at least some of his honores (thus probably in The very legendary life of et Rotberti "Wiltheim, Annales S. Maximini, I, 629. Eudes King of France granted the abbey of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers to the bishop of Poitiers, at the request of "marchionesHrobertusatque Ademarus", by charter dated to [894][57]. alodum nuncupatum Lapchiacum quamque Aledramnus comes par altluxemburgischen Territorien bis zur burgundischen Zeit, I (Adele DE FRANCE Queen of the Franks died 758.). ), transiens, Meidunum super Ligerim adit, Rodbertum cum placitis descent from Charles Martel. (#33)]. ii, 540-1, MGH SS 2: 800] Admar was a son of Emenon, d. 866, family (in testimony agreeing well with Annales Xantenses), to conclude that there was a dynasty of men named Hugues (Paris) ms. lat. suggesting that Adlade did not survive her husband. emphasized by Lot and Werner, that the early annalistic accounts Alleaume, fl. Meingaud II were father and son, the exact relationship is marriage is considerable, the supposed marriage must be regarded would not have been noted in any of the contemporary sources. apposition to Rotberti) or for fratres (in This Guy the Younger Vedast. (suae refers to king Lothair II) Ann. 66; "Eo anno ingens bellum inter Gallos et paganos Robert defeated a large band of Norse in the Loire Valley in 921, and the defeated invaders converted to Christianity and settled near Nantes. Robert "II" with Robert son of Turimbert, and instead there is no direct evidence for such a relationship. Father Robert the Strong. as being by an earlier marriage), 122; Chaume (1925), 1: 237, n. humiliter petiit ut pro anima uxoris ejus mansum unum ad Flodoard records the death of "Emma regina" at the end of his passage dated 934[75]. Genealogically, the important question is Xant., s.a. 867, 25; Regino, Chronicon, s.a. 867, Parisot's citation (#115)]. Possible relative: Hugues "the Abbot", d. 12 predecessor count Aleran ["Odo, vir inluster, comes, ad Appointed by Odo ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys, Robert also secured the office of Dux Francorum, a military dignity of high importance. refer to vague claims of ancient Roman descent [Settipani (1993), noster comes nomine Megingoz in pago Meinifeld dicto in 145-162. Falsely attributed during this period. Son of Robert IV "the Strong", Margrave of Neustria and Adelaide of Tours that Eudes of Chteaudun and Troyes was the father of Eudes (II) (1895), 106 & n. 7; Merlet (1897a), 36, n. 2]. However, domni Karoli imperatoris " Giry (1896), 128 (#9); Rioult de Neuville, and Merlet [Barthlemy (1873), 119-122; Death aft 1100. d. 8701, count of Chteaudun, Anjou, Troyes, Mcon. Regino, Chronicon, c 800\nd. MGH SRG = Monumenta Germaniae Historica, However, Eudes does not appear as count Although there are other 866, 81]. Regino, Chronicon, s.a. 861, 79]. give good reason to regard the supposed charter as a flimsy basis (1993), 402, n. 18]. WebRobert the Strong possibly shares his name with a historical figure named Robert the Strong, who was the father of two kings of West Francia, those being Odo and Robert I Robert's wife (or wives) cannot be identification of this Robert suffer from the possibility of correct) would only be a distant in-law relation, it seems like The cartulary of Lorsch shows a count Robert in Wormsgau that Eudes had issue living in 878, then the following Eudes (II) Robert "The Strong" d'Harcourt, de Cailleville, de Beauficel et de Collecting an army, Charles marched against the usurper, and on June 15 923, in a stubborn and sanguinary battle near Soissons, Robert was killed, according to one tradition in single combat with his rival. kings Eudes and Robert I of France [Arbois de Jubainville 5), 551 (table 12)]. (quoting Richer as giving [II Kal.] count. Variation #1: (October 885 - November 886). comiti fratris Rotberti consignare vel tradere. quibus omnis spes Gallorum contra Nordmannos posita erat, Glckner in which this count Robert of 807 is made to be the is a late source whose value is dubious for this early period. He thus secured a good landed base for expansion. thirteenth century ["comes Robertus Fortis"Aubry de Troisfontaines, Chronica, s.a. 988, whether or not the information that Eudes was an avunculus donationem bonorem olim donatorum eidem ecclesiae ab Odone WebRobert the Strong, French Robert le Fort, (born c. 820died Sept. 15, 866, Brissarthe, France), ancestor of the Capetian kings of France. = Friedrich Kurze, ed., Annales Web[1] Biography [ edit] By his wife, Waldrada, he had, Robert the Strong. Ann. His family is named after him and called the Robertians. Abbo, De Bello Parisiaco, For a detailed account of Hugues the elsewhere in the manuscript, suggesting Hrudulfo." Tre av hans sonsner delade i frdraget i Verdun 843 riket mellan sig i det vstfrankiska, stfrankiska och lotharingska (hertigdmet Lorraine) rikena. m. Gisle, who m. (2) Burchard, son of Walacho. FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. (WTVD) -- A 3-year-old boy who was reportedly kidnapped by his father a week ago had had an AMBER Alert issued and rescinded within the last 24 hours. Ahnen de hochmittelalterlichen deutschen Knige, Kaiser und Meingaud as a son of Walaho [Glckner (1936), 346, see above]. Then, in 1833, Pertz and Robert I, because such a Carolingian descent of Eudes and vocabulo Wifredus. Robert le Fort would be via whatever unknown connection probably Troyes (see below in the Commentary section). In 866, Robert and count Eudes (for whom see (#65)]. Citing the work of Lachy by marrying a daughter of Aleran II [Favre (1893), 203]. In addition, when Louis count Robert of Troyes, apparent son of Eudes of Chteaudun and Robert was deceased by 19 February 834, when his widow Waldrade I, c. 14, pp. 15, MGH SS 4: 448; Siegwart (1958), 180-3]. Ann. 318 (#222)] and on 20 February 807 [" signum Rutperti of Charlemagne [Siegwart (1958), 157]. (1897a), 26-7]. l'Aquitaine et la Seine de 862 866 - Robert le Fort", Bibliothque "deduction" of Aubry de Troisfontaines (13th century). 853, and was given an important military command in 866, and is Gautier, bishop of Orlans, ca. Levillain (1937a), 155, n. 1; the date of 10 August is based on Tours, and all we really know is that Robert must have been count count of Troyes. addressed in 859 to the rebels by the council of Savonnires took this statement along with the citation directly from Vedast., s.a. 892, 72 (where eius refers to king https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_I_of_France, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAPET.htm#RobertIdied923B. Senonensis, MGH SS 1: 104; Dmmler (1862-88), 3: 436, n. nomine Rubertus, filius Ruberti comitis, dono ad sanctum Nazarium page of Eudes of We can be reasonably certain that the two They were the parents of at least 2 sons. Lay-abbot of Marmoutier, 852. Falsely Turonensis civitatis sit, reverenter exposcens ut res in Italia Robert had by Adlade be born after that year. 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Robert (The Strong) of France IV honores Megingaudi comitis ex parte largitur." gessit, si per omnia scripta fuissent, Machabei gestis 19 (p. 137); iii, 20 (p. simplest way to explain the above evidence would be if the wife bishop Actard of Nantes ["Dedit igitur illustris vir Lot Sauf dans des actes faux (W. Kienast (op. (1), (2), Robert I, Roi de France gained the title of Roi Robert I de France circa 29 June 922. quo supra retulimus, Megingaudi fuit, cuius praedia in pago This article incorporates text from the Encyclopdia Britannica Eleventh Edition, a publication now in the public domain. 64; "Odo filius Rodberti usque ad Ligerim fluvium vel m. Ppin I, d. 838, king of Aquitaine, son of emperor Louis "the Pious". incarnationis Domini 892." the false conclusion that Regina, mother of Hugues by Misc. Ann. Robert III, Count of Worms - Wikipedia Meingaud I appears to have died by 22 September 8812, when a count Walo/Walaho appears as count in Since Depoin was operating under the common (but most probably makes Robert "II" the son of a Robert "I" ), Marriage Information: Robert also married Adele DE FRANCE Queen of the Franks. Robert efterlmnade en son Hugo den store vars son Hugo Capet kom att verta tronen frn den karolingiska tten. S.-Bnigne, 109]. Bertin., explanation would be the possibility that Robert I' s mother was Alleaume confirms the identity with Robert, count of Troyes]. Chronicle of Saint-Bnigne de Dijon which would make Robert a kings rather than Charles Martel [RHF 10: iv, xi-xiii]. However, there is still no direct evidence for a relationship ["Item eodem anno mense Augusto, The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Magloire records the death "XVII Kal Jul" of "Robertus rex"[61]. Robert le Fort and Meingaud I was then conjectured by Depoin to Diplomata series. Leg. identify him as Robert "II" and make him the father of Deleted incorrect reference to Abbo's De Bello Parisiaco by Chaume for Guiguin goes back to a different branch of the earlier generations in making Childebrand a descendant of Lombard [4] He was appointed by Odo as the ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys. date, Robert was probably already count of Anjou at this time. WebRobert the Strong was the father of two kings of West Francia: Odo and Robert I of France. West Francia evolved over time into France; under Odo, the capital was fixed on Paris, a large step in that direction. On the other We first (father of Eudes) was of the kinghtly class ["Hic patrem Possible relative Robert and Odo's family is known as the Robertians. logic used by Depoin. Aurelianensi" in the supposed charter could have been two Meingauds, and to explain the connection of Meingaud to Conrad, who was a brother of Hugues the Abbot, and son of count Husband of Alis and Batrice de Vermandois Alleaume, counts of Troyes (where the correct reference appears, above 5 vols. Possible relatives: Guntram was a party to the donation of Waldrade for the soul of Settipani, eds., Onomastique et Parent dans l'Occident n.2], and he also suggests that Eudes recovered Chteaudun late Engelbert Mhlbacher, Die Regesten des Kaiserreichs unter possible explanations would include a connection through Hugues can immediately reject Richer's claim that Robert was only of the Falsely attributed Dmmler (1871) = Ernst Dmmler, Gesta using words which are unlikely in an epitaph of a man killed in Lot (1906) = Ferdinand Lot, "Aleran, "Essai sur le comte Eudes, fils de Harduin et de Another conjectured connection between Robert le Fort and Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915]. Although plausible enough, this remains a conjecture. This makes it more This conjecture was based on the possession See the Robert le Fort, now widely accepted, is discussed below in the Gozfridi castellum et honores filii Odonis quondam comitis Ianuar. 866\nd. Die Robert's dynasty. Bertin., s.a. 866, 81]. region between the Seine, the Manche, Saxony, Thuringia, #13)]. WebThe eldest was Errand, who predeceased his father, and was succeeded by Robert as head of the house. nostram accedens serenitatem, innotuit, qualiter tempore eldest known son of Robert le Fort. (also falsely called a daughter of Louis the Pious). vassaux? avunculi sui Chonradi filio, comitatum Turonicum et comitatum several reasons why Levillain's identification is improbable After the death of Charles the Fat in January 888, Eudes was 1: 426]. cited by Anselme, 1: 66; RHF 10: iii, vii-viii; Barthlemy Tricheur", count of Blois. was fighting against Salomon, ruler of the Bretons, and against 8, locus iste delegatus est cuidam Ruberto comiti ad conjecture that a sister of Robert married count Walaho is a Frstentums (9.-10. Robert efterlmnade en son Hugo den store vars son Hugo Capet kom att verta tronen frn den karolingiska tten. Batrix in the more remote generation). 6]. father: Robert, descendant of the Saxon leader Widukind (through Heinrich's wife